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TMA-2

Also called 2,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine

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Common dose · Oral20–40 mg PW
Onset20–120 minutes PW
Total8–12 hours PW
After-effects4–24 hours PW

Dosage

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Oral

SourceThresholdLightCommonStrongHeavy
PsychonautWiki5 mg PW10–20 mg PW20–40 mg PW40–60 mg PW60 mg+ PW
TripSit5–10 mg TS10–20 mg TS20–40 mg TS40–60 mg+ TS–

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Threshold: 5-10mg Light: 10-20mg Common: 20-40mg Strong: 40-60mg+ TS

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Duration

Route · sourceOnsetCome-upPeakOffsetTotalAfter-effects
Oral · PsychonautWiki20–120 minutes PW1.5–3 hours PW4–6 hours PW2–4 hours PW8–12 hours PW4–24 hours PW

TripSit factsheet

Onset
20-120 minutes TS
Duration
6-12 hours TS

Mixing

For best safety practice, don't mix this drug with other stimulants.

Why: vasoconstriction, heart rate and blood pressure. PsychonautWiki says:

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Risks and toxicity

Toxicity studies in rats have been showed TMA-2 doses of 80 mg/kg induced frequent clonic convulsions. A dose of 120 mg/kg was associated with fatal toxic effects. It was estimated that the LD50 of mice to be 180mg/kg.[1] PW

The toxicity and long-term health effects of recreational TMA-2 use do not seem to have been studied in any scientific context and the exact toxic dose is unknown. This is because TMA-2 has very little history of human usage. Anecdotal evidence from people within the psychonaut community who have tried TMA-2 suggests that there are no negative health effects attributed to simply trying the drug by itself at low to moderate doses and using it very sparingly (but nothing can be completely guaranteed). Independent research should always be done to ensure that a combination of two or more substances is safe before consumption. PW

Tolerance and addiction potential

TMA-2 is not habit-forming and the desire to use it can actually decrease with use. It is most often self-regulating. PW

Tolerance to the effects of TMA-2 are built almost immediately after ingestion. After that, it takes about 3 days for the tolerance to be reduced to half and 7 days to be back at baseline (in the absence of further consumption). TMA-2 presents cross-tolerance with all psychedelics, meaning that after the consumption of TMA-2 all psychedelics will have a reduced effect. PW

Testing

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Effects

Euphoriaempathyinsightbrightened colourClosed/Open eye visualsenhanced tactile sensationmental/physical stimulationdecreased appetitepupil dilationrestlessnesschange in perceptionego softeningsweating/chillsmuscle tensionconfusioninsomnia TS

Shulgin notes

These figures come from the Shulgins' own small trials, published decades ago. They are history, not a dosing guide: they were never checked the way a harm reduction dose table is, and batches, purity and people differ.

Book
PiHKAL (1991), entry #158
Dose listed
20–40 mg orally WP
Duration listed
8–12 hours WP

Read entry #158 in Erowid's online library

From PiHKAL and TiHKAL by Alexander and Ann Shulgin, as tabulated in Wikipedia's articles on the books (CC BY-SA 4.0). The books' text belongs to the Shulgins, so only the listed figures and a link are given here. Synthesis details are never shown on this site.

Overview

2,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine (abbreviated TMA-2) is a synthetic psychedelic amphetamine known to produce a unique spectrum of hallucinogenic and stimulant effects that differ substantially from other psychoactive phenethylamines. TMA-2 along with TMA-6 and others are members of the trimethoxylated family of phenethylamines. Members in this family been observed to produce a complex mixture of hallucinogenic, stimulant, psychedelic and entactogenic effects that qualitatively separates it from other psychedelic phenethylamine compounds like members of the 2C-x or DOx series. PW

Trimethoxyamphetamine-2, a psychedelic amphetamine and stimulant first synthesised by Alexander Shulgin. An uncommon compound of similar activity to other psychedelic amphetamines. Short history of human use. TS

History

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References

  1. Other Report on the risk assessment of TMA-2 in the framework of the joint action on new synthetic drugs. 2004
  2. Other COUNCIL DECISION 2003/847/JHA. November 27, 2003
  3. Other Dreizehnte Verordnung zur Änderung betäubungsmittelrechtlicher Vorschriften
  4. Other Anlage I BtMG
  5. Other § 29 BtMG
  6. Other Verordnung des EDI über die Verzeichnisse der Betäubungsmittel, psychotropen Stoffe, Vorläuferstoffe und Hilfschemikalien
  7. Other https://resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2014/01/20140125-3.htm
  8. Other https://resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2014/01/20140125-3-1.pdf

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